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A modest start

Haute Couture

OCIMAR VERSOLATO’S HYBRID CREATIONS

Interview by Jacques Brunel, journalist, contributor to Le Monde and Vogue, and René Lefort, director of the UNESCO Courier.
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Diaphanous drapings in Rajasthan (India): doesn’t every woman invent her own style?






A modest start

Ocimar Versolato was born to parents of Italian origin in 1961 near São Paulo, Brazil’s industrial capital. Deprived of an income following the death of his father, an industrialist, his mother opened up a sewing workshop patronized by the cream of São Paolo society. Unlike his five brothers and sisters, young Ocimar fell in love with the business.
Since there was not yet a place to study fashion in Brazil, Versolato went to architecture school, but soon dropped out and started a successful business making accessories that he sold to ready-to-wear shops. In 1987 he left for Paris after meeting Marie Rucki, director of the prestigious Berçot fashion design school, where he enthusiastically took classes.
The young Brazilian perfected his training during a four-year stint with the designer Hervé Léger before launching a luxury ready-to-wear line in 1993. Staged with the help of a few friends and a 3,000-franc budget ($500), his first show of evening gowns won him many offers. Versolato joined Lanvin, where he designed women’s ready-to-wear for two years, introducing jeans to the venerable house’s collections. Funded by Pessoa de Queiroz, a Brazilian trust, Versolato set up a workshop on the Place Vendôme, where he presented his first haute couture collection in 1998. His label—which makes, among other things, ready-to-wear, and lingerie—has changed hands several times and is currently finding new backers.








Haute Couture

In 1858, Charles Worth of Great Britain, Empress Eugénie’s couturier, moved to the Rue de la Paix and, towards the end of the nineteenth century, presented his creations on living models. “Haute Couture”, which stood apart from hand-made garments by its luxurious nature, quickly became a form of expression practiced by all the great names in fashion history, including Poiret, Chanel and Balenciaga. Industrial production methods based on American Taylorism developed in the 1930s and 1940s, and by the 1950s hand-made garments entered the era of mass production: ready-to-wear was born.
At the same time, haute couture prices continued to climb, partly to factor in expensive labour costs. Meanwhile, its clientele steadily declined. By the 1980s, haute couture was being exhibited in museums, raising it to full-fledged art form status. Based exclusively in Paris and, secondarily, in Italy, where Versace and Valentino have their own ‘Alta Moda’ lines, haute couture designers present two collections a year including approximately 60 pieces per couturier, which make headlines in newspapers’ fashion sections around the world. Although haute couture is in the red today, its prestige allows companies to sell less expensive but more profitable items like ready-to-wear, handbags, fragrances, watches and eyeglasses.
Haute couture sales may not be rising in volume, but overall the fashion market is expanding by leaps and bounds. The most powerful groups are Calvin Klein and Ralph Lauren of the United States, followed by France’s LVMH (Dior, Givenchy, Lacroix) and, far behind, Italy’s Armani, Gucci and Prada. These companies are still very discreet about their profits. For comparison’s sake, French designers and couturiers recorded sales of 20 billion francs ($3.3 billion) in 1997, as opposed to 16 billion ($2.6 billion) for Calvin Klein alone.

Though too pricey for the average consumer, Brazilian couturier Ocimar Versolato interweaves multiculturalism and sensuality to create designs that match women’s dreams

Paris has Japanese, South Korean, Malian and Moroccan designers, but few people from the South have achieved the rank of “couturier”.
Fashion design now exists in every country in the world, but I am only the third designer from the South–after Azzedine Alaïa of Tunisia and Oscar de la Renta of the Dominican Republic, for the Balmain fashion house–to have achieved the rank of couturier, recognized by their peers of the Paris haute couture professional trade body. Until now, that distinction was reserved for Western designers from countries with a more developed fashion tradition. I was lucky enough to start out at a time when haute couture was opening up to new talents and encouraging new fashion houses that were able to express a particular aesthetic sensibility despite their limited financial resources. So I didn’t suffer from chauvinistic ostracism, in fact, it was just the opposite. From Italy’s Schiaparelli to Spain’s Balenciaga, haute couture has always embraced people from different countries. Because Paris is in a class of its own. It is no more French than New York is American: it belongs to the world. On the other hand, Parisians are so uptight and demanding that you have to be really talented to express yourself here.

Do you consider fashion a form of artistic expression?
The couturier is not an artist, but a craftsman with his or her own sensibility. No artist is expected to change so fast, creating two collections a year. And then, fashion comes with commercial obligations. My work provides a livelihood for a whole team: I don’t have the right to run out of inspiration. So people shouldn’t imagine us as egotistical artists bullied around by financial backers. Fashion is an artistic industry resulting from compromise rather than tension. Designers and their financial backers know that they have to move ahead together. Designers can no longer make their wildest dreams come true and then just forward the bill, like they used to.

If fashion is not an art, then what is it?
Fashion designers and couturiers apprehend the subconscious life of our societies and go on to represent it with their own particular sensibility. There is a crucial need for fashion to maintain this transparent channel to people’s sub-conscience, in order to uncover their hidden desires and give expression to them.That’s why we don’t look at our surroundings the way others do. Our minds are fast as rockets and we look at everything through emotional, impassioned eyes. I admire the speed of videos that give you a maximum amount of information in a minimum amount of time. Now that’s a truly contemporary language!

How do you justify haute couture prices?
An evening gown, which is entirely sewn by hand so that all the stitches are invisible, requires hundreds of hours of highly specialized work. Add to that the employer’s payroll expenses and overhead, and I have to sell it for around 80,000 French francs ($13,300).

In spite of the high prices, is haute couture a profitable business?
My fashion house, like many others, lives off the patronage of approximately fifty customers. We aren’t losing money, but we aren’t making much, either. Many houses take advantage of the prestige associated with fashion to sell perfumes and accessories, which are more immediately profitable. I’ve refused to do that: you cannot exercise a creative activity with nothing but the profit motive in mind. If I want to communicate the image of my creation to customers, I must absolutely not ruin that image by launching, for example, a shampoo with my name on it. Or you have to justify your approach. Mine starts at the top: I began with haute couture, developed luxury ready-to-wear clothes and launched my line of jeans, always sticking as close as possible to my customers’ needs

Your dresses follow the outlines of an ideal woman: the Versolato woman. Do your customers look like her?
I’m surprised to see how much my customers resemble each other both because of their age–between 18 and 40–and character. They are self-confident women who do not feel inhibited about showing their bodies. By choosing my light clothes, which enhance their character, they feel like they are reaching the perfect balance that defines elegance. These women come in sneakers and jeans. They put on an evening gown. And suddenly their postures, their attitudes and even their faces change. They feel beautiful, they’re no longer the same. I enjoy the fact that haute couture enables me to have direct contact with my customers, which would hardly be possible in ready-to-wear, where the only people designers ever meet are buyers.

Too many people cannot afford haute couture...
To offer everybody the pleasure of a purchase, I have created a line of jeans starting at 400 French francs ($67). Today, the heart of dreams–haute couture–is on television when the two annual collections take place. In my view, having access to dreams is more important than possessing the item that nurtures them. When I arrived in Paris, I had a very tight budget. And yet I visited art galleries, examining everything I wanted to buy without paying any attention to the price, but trying to picture what it would look like at home. It’s the same with clothes. You can’t afford to buy everything you want, but you should at least be given the chance to see what’s out there and savour the dream inspired by these fashions.

Even though fashion has become an international industry, do the dresses you design for your customers reflect your origins a little?
They attempt to express the natural seduction which has free rein in Brazil. My fellow citizens are open, smiling and friendly. They want to seduce everybody all the time. My dresses bear the mark of a country where people are not ashamed of their bodies. Whether or not they have perfect looks, Brazilians live almost naked six months a year, wearing just a pair of shorts or small items. I discovered that in Europe, on the other hand, the body had to remain hidden. Its cultural tradition advises against displaying a less-than-perfect chest or wearing a mini-skirt if you don’t have pretty knees. The couturier in me is trying to treat these traumas.

Brazil is a mixture of ethnic and religious groups. Does your fashion reflect cultural diversity?
I remember two Arab princesses. The mother, who was rather strict, got upset when she saw that her daughter was interested in a see-through dress. Until I offered to add a bodysuit to give a layer of covering. The cultural diversity expressed by my fashions consists, among other things, of offering sensuality to those who are deprived of it because of their culture. As for the rest, I’m impervious to race, except when I can use it as a source of inspiration. I designed an haute couture collection based on the theme of multicultural melange, dressing Japanese like Africans, Africans like Russians, and these amusing twists went over well. For fashion is a world unto itself, free, without prejudices–and therefore open to all kinds of mixing. As an international form of expression, fashion must integrate all cultures. My team includes Brazilians, Italians, Japanese and Germans, whose skills round each other out.

Do people in Brazil and the rest of South America keep up with your career?
I haven’t worked at becoming a sort of star in South America, but fame is part of my profession. For example, I didn’t think anyone had ever heard of me in Buenos Aires. So I was totally surprised when television journalists there got in touch with me. They consider me South American rather than Brazilian, and, as such, a representative of Argentina.

Does Brazil have an innovative, lively fashion scene?
The reality is that too many people there, as elsewhere in the southern countries, make copies. More accurately, copies of copies of copies. But Brazil is a country where anything is possible. Dirt poor provinces exist next to highly developed metropolises such as São Paulo, where luxury can find some expresion. And Brazilians, like any other people, are able to show the world their particular sense of aesthetics. I’m delighted that Brazilian fashion designers have made headway and now have the courage to show themselves. But they have neither the know-how nor the standards to be internationally successful. They are naive to the point of designing a whole collection with a flat pattern, a simple sewing machine and an overcast machine1. Their clothes don’t have any volume, roundness or sophistication. Nobody ever taught them how to make a well-tailored jacket.

How can they get out of this dead end?
Brazilians are curious by nature, and they want to learn. I’d like to help them by encouraging a transfer of techniques. In France, labour in the fashion industry is in short supply, highly specialized and expensive, while tens of millions of people are unemployed and looking for work in Brazil. By training some of them in France, we’d also find a long-term way of improving technical skills and raising standards back in Brazil which could make quality shoes and clothes for all the designers in the world.

Are you advocating globalization?
It’s already here. Today, you can design a garment here, assemble it there and embroider it somewhere else. So you’re better off making the most of what everyone’s best at. After the war, smart people in overpopulated India opened small embroidery factories. Today, almost all the embroidery sold around the world comes from India, and the quality can be as good as it is in Paris.

Have other developing countries specialized in other techniques?
Right now, everything is incredibly centralized in Europe–or in Japan, a country that can be considered Western. But China has developed techniques for silk, of which it is the world’s leading producer. One day it will probably have the same state-of-the-art technology as Europe. And when that day comes, the other countries will tremble.

Does Brazil have any women fashion designers?
Most of the neighbourhood designers are men, but Brazilian women have never come up against any obstacles to enter the fashion industry. Each one is a designer in her own right. Gifted with an innate sense of grooming, they know how to dress for any occasion without falling into stereotypes or ridiculous clichés.

Do women prefer being dressed by men?
Male designers give themselves the freedom to be more daring than their female counterparts, simply because they don’t have to wear what they create. Their aesthetic sense blossoms without restraint and their customers, who don’t hesitate putting on eight-centimeter heels to look beautiful, prefer aesthetics to comfort.

What’s your state of mind when you design your collections?
Couturiers are wrongly described as heartless and inaccessible. On the contrary, like all creative individuals, they are very sensitive and try to defend their fragility. If they want to sell dreams, they must find an image of the world that expresses happiness. So it really doesn’t matter whether they keep their feet on the ground. Clothing designed by a couturier is different from ordinary ready-to-wear because of the feelings it conveys. During a fashion show, a dress has just 30 seconds to express a whole universe.

Have you used your fame to serve useful causes?
I’ve staged a fashion show that people had to pay to see, with the $20,000 in proceeds going towards the construction of a building for children with cancer. Right now, I’m working with the photographer Sebastião Salgado on a reforestation project. The funding will come from a show I’m helping to put on.


1. An overcaster is a machine used to stitch the edges of two pieces of fabric together.

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