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2.The excluded
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A return to nature

Interview by Ivan Briscoe, UNESCO Courier journalist
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Illegal asylum seekers from the Balkans under arrest in Greece.





* Professor of the history of ideas at the University of Bologna, author of L’Invenzione delle Razze [The Invention of Races], I volumi (1998) and La Guerra delle Razze [The Race Wars], (2001)
Is it possible to gauge the influence of globalization and mass migration on the future of racist thought? Alberto Burgio*, a leading Italian analyst of racism, examines the ethnic panorama

What do you believe are the fundamental sources of racism in the world?

The first thing we must be clear about is that racism as an ideology is a product of the modern world. Obviously history has given us many examples of violence between different human groups, but not until the modern era was this violence justified by reference to racist thinking. In my opinion, the link is the following: modernity is characterized by forces that are inclusive and universal, while in practice—in political, social and military affairs—it is discriminatory. This contradiction is partly resolved by a racist ideology which excludes groups of peoples who are defined as essentially different.

In your opinion, has globalization accentuated racism or reduced it?
It’s difficult to give a very general answer, but I have the impression that at the moment the main effect of the process is to increase racism. The reason for this is fairly simple: globalization is a classic example of modernity. It’s clearly unifying the world, but on a hierarchical and exclusive basis. Remember that when we talk about globalization we are talking largely about the unification of money markets, speculative financial flows, information and the organization of production. But the same definitely does not go for the movement of people. Somehow this contradiction between the free movement of money and the segmentation of the world must be justified, and this is done by reference to supposed natural differences.

Do you believe that the outbreaks of racism observed in Africa, Asia and Europe all stem from the same causes?
No two examples of racism are the same since their historical contexts are always different. Having said that, I believe it is possible to say how racism functions in general: namely, as a naturalization of identity that aims to legitimate the discriminatory treatment of different groups, leading in extreme cases to those groups’ destruction or genocide. But though we can make such a generalization, we are still obliged to study each case for its particular historical origins. It’s clear that in Asia and Africa there are racist phenomena that are strongly influenced by globalization, and are thus similar to the racism characteristic of Europe and the Americas. But there are also violent ethnic conflicts that stem from the specific histories of those continents.

You have stressed the role, especially in European politics, of the “demographic factor.” What exactly do you mean by this?
Racism can’t be understood as the simple consequences of demographic pressure—it’s not a mechanical phenomenon. Large migratory fluxes have become a real problem for the first time in 50 years. And though “south to south” migration barely makes the news—being seen as a minor aspect of the “new world order”—the dismemberment of Yugoslavia drew attention to supposed masses of refugees. This has transformed demographics into a critical element on European governments’ political agendas.
In my recent work, I develop an analogy between Europe today and in the1930s. It’s clear that we have been pushed back to one of the principle historical features of that time, when the idea of mass deportation or social engineering was considered a fundamental part of geopolitics.
Some experts would argue, however, that unlike the 1930s extremist parties in Europe are on the decline: France’s National Front, for instance, is no longer so strong.
When you make a historical analogy, you obviously have to be aware that history does not repeat itself. It’s a question instead of asking if there is a set of shared phenomena which can help us find our way around contemporary politics. I point to three such phenomena, which I believe were extremely important in the 1930s and continue to be very heavily present in the first years of the new century.
Firstly, war has returned to the heart of Europe through the Balkans, and is once again seen as a real political option by European and Western governments. Secondly, as I mentioned earlier, demographics and frontier protection have become key parts of government policy, especially for the European Union since the implementation of the Schengen accords in 1995. Thirdly, racism has become once again an ideological weapon, and the representation of social and political relations in ethnic terms has become an ideological means of producing consensus in Western democratic societies. Not only in Austria, Switzerland or Belgium, but also in Britain, Germany and France: in March 2000, over 60 percent of French people admitted in a survey to holding racist opinions.

In Italy and other countries there has been earnest debate over the issue of national culture and its protection. Is this is just a cover for racist prejudices or a reflection of wider concerns?
If an Italian like me compares myself with a French citizen, I can obviously talk about my eating habits, my lifestyle, my tastes, indeed everything which distinguishes an Italian from another nationality, without necessarily being racist. But there is a point when the discussion becomes racist, and that is when one says these differences are too large to be eliminated, they are too large to allow people to live together as equals.
Turning to the Muslims and Arab peoples in Italy, it’s said that the culture of these people is not only different from our own, but also prevents them from integrating. Therefore assimilation in a democratic country where everyone is equal before the law becomes impossible. The ambiguity of the racist stance is that it acknowledges essential human characteristics—it talks of culture, of religion, of history, of traditions—yet treats all of these as if they were only aspects of nature. It translates what is historical into what is natural, and thus impossible to change.
Giacomo Biffi, the Archbishop of Bologna, has clearly stated that we must welcome only immigrants who come from Christian countries, starting with Filipinos since they are Catholics. And it’s not just Biffi. An important writer and political scientist called Giovanni Sartori, who lived for several years in the United States and taught at Columbia University, has written a book saying exactly the same thing.

Do you believe the coming years will see increased exploitation of racism at the political level?
It’s difficult to make predictions. If the hawkish approach to governing globalization wins—by which I mean that of a confrontation between poor and rich—I believe we will see years of hard conflict, and amid this conflict there is sure to be a violent rejection of the continuous flow of people coming to the richer parts of the world. These conflicts will also be interpreted politically by the right, namely by the political entrepreneurs of spontaneous racism.
But there is also the possibility, or rather the hope, that leaders of the richest and most powerful countries try to govern these differences between the rich and poor parts of the world in a less violent and more reasonable way. This is unfortunately less likely than the first option, but if it occurs, we may see a progressive reduction in the problem of racism.

Can anything be done to combat racism in individual countries rather than at the global level?
Anti-racist campaigns must be rooted in the concrete reality of different countries or regions, otherwise you can make only moral platitudes—and no-one needs those. Instead we need to be able to make practical interventions in real situations. The United Nations and other large organizations must continue to make governments aware of this problem, as must world public opinion.

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